I've used Testors dulcote for ever straight from the spray can without much problem.I had 1 hard lesson at first,that it had to be shaken very well first,my finished model was a write off as it turned into totally white dust.I am going to try something Gino suggested on another post.Modelmaster lusterless flat,#1960.I had no idea it existed and I have yet to find it. I have been using 2 parts X-21 Flat Base to 3 parts Future as a flat coat for 5 years and it always gives me a perfect dead flat finish with no problems. there is nothing wrong with lacquer per se. Beats the crap of out cat........crap. Shop with confidence. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC, Thanks for all the responses thus far. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. I've never used this product before, but my understanding is that it is specifically intended for use as a final coat (and is a different product than Tamiya Flat Base X21.) These spray paints were developed especially for decorating transparent polycarbonate bodies used in R/C car modeling. Customs services and international tracking provided. Just a heads up on some of these labeled cans that may still be in circulation. Applying clear coat … A closer look- Testors, Tamiya, Vallejo, and Armory. It's readily available here in Australia. I swore those off many years ago. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:57 PM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:21 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC. Or for brushing try … CDN$15.99. Too little Flat Base have no effect on the paint. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:02 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:59 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:59 PM UTC. A heavy coat gives the solvents more time to attack the other paints. +C $25.05 shipping. $12.57 $ 12. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. the effect seems a little less noticeable, and it … Each can contains 100ml of paint, which is the appropriate amount for finishing one complete model. Overall it's much better to spray it on. Looking at your pictures Bill I'm getting a bit of this too, only nowhere near as bad. I share my building room with stupid the cat. in which i explore the many legends of this apparently magical way of making yo model shine like a diamond in a goat's ass. Never clogged, and always comes out flat. 19d 23h left (22/6, 22:36) From United States. just start with a light coat, which will dry very quickly, then a bit heavier on a second coat and that does it. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. the finish is much more noticeable than the krylon in my opinion. Though unfortunately that doesn't really answer your question. If only varnishing was so simple...Ahhhh. 1-16 of 49 results for "tamiya clear coat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. Tamiya makes a clear flat paint that you can use instead. yes, it is just fine. the rattle cans is the same stuff as the bottle, juset that you need to thin the stuff in the bottle before you spray it. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish, NOT Flat Base), what is the best thinning ratio for spraying, and what's the prefered thinner ? As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. X-21 is a flating agent—don't use it straight. I have Iso alcohol, or water, and I can get the very small bottles of Tamiya thinner. Ideal for preparing ABS and Styrene plastic for paint. Thanks to, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:58 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 05:58 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 08:40 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:07 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 11:49 AM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 12:23 PM UTC, Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 04:53 PM UTC. I used one on a `copter and it was fine, next day I used it on a jet and...disaster! It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. I like the Tamiya sprays by far compared to Army Painter and Citadel (clear coats and primers), but I wish they came in a bigger can. most people who speak for and against lacquer are speaking on personal preference or paint compatibility with the other paints they use. March 21, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. Upload or insert images from URL. Yes, Thomas, if you mist your model with Future you can save your model. I love the smell of dull coat in the morning. I use the Testors Model Master Acryl Clear Flat through my airbrush all the time, I do not thin it, I use it straight from bottle through my Paasche VL at about 18-20psi. Tamiya paint will often do this regardless of colours, it's not great to brush as the thinner will re-activate prior coats even when dry. To protect the paint and decals from the lacquer. In my experience airbrushing it, it dries to the touch within a few minutes, and at about 30 minutes to an hour you can easily apply decals. Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 22. Some people say dont use laquer. TS-80 Flat Clear. I think the testors dullcote has just a bit more sheen than acryl flat, which i like. some say to use it. Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :D, General Discussion - NO POLITICS. Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. If either Clear or Flat Base … My rule of thumb is: You can paint enamels and acrylics over lacquer, but not lacquers over enamels and acrylics. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. I've been having a real problem airbrushing various brands of acrylic clear flat coats. (all these acryllic users were making me feel like the last smoker in the bar), ? From United States +C … A slight sheen isn't too bad, but would prefer not to have any...especially on figures. Acrylic paints dry extremely quickly which can cause the frosting effect.   Pasted as rich text. ... Tamiya TAM87131 Black Planel Line Accent 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,504. Stupid poos in the room. Ive tried MM acryl flat but for me I feel that it is a bit too flat of a coat. Are you talking about the spray cans on the stuff in the bottles? But I don't put down anything before i use dullcote. If you don't have an airbrush, get some Mr Topcoat or another acrylic clear coat for best results. Yeah, I was a Humbrol man untill they changed formula and only, initially, advertised it as `new formula`, with no mention of the potential harm it could do if you sprayed it on their own enamel paint. Is it okay to use the laquer if i do it lightly? Don't thin it at all, just drop it in the airbrush and go. Altough it must be stirred & thinned well to get the best result. Sometimes I got frosty surfaces on the model because of this Dull Coat. You can spray lacquer over the paint and decals if you do it right. The one thing you havent mentioned is an 'extender'. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. We are shipping online orders as usual during the COVID-19 event. This went Pete Tong and they replaced the stickers with ones saying `don`t use with enamel or acrylic paint`. Lusterless Flat Lacquer Clear Coat Testors Customers also viewed these products. Seems that it's a condition that is the end result of the Tamiya Flat and Future when their is to much humidity in the air. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 3.4oz (100ml) can of Tamiya Color Spray Lacquer for Plastic Models (TS-80 Gloss Clear) For Adult Modelers Only. Greetings all. Stickers were subsequently applied on said cans stating ` don`t use with brushing paint for 7 days`. C $20.68. I'm confused now. Buy It Now. The more you add, the flatter it gets. I use it to add some flat to Tamiya Smoke for wheel well weathering. But if you want to create some effect for tyres, this flat base can work. It tries to stink me out and I battle back with dull coat, model master white or metalizers. Painting polycarbonate bodies is done from the inside of the body shell as opposed to the outside of a traditional plastic model. i much prefer mr clear, but its more expensive for a lesser quantity. × I'm interested in what you find that works. The main problem is that no matter what formulas, brands, thinning ratios or ritual dances to the modeling gods I use, I always end up with a finish that makes the model look dusty. Find great deals on eBay for tamiya clear and tamiya clear spray. The key is to spray light, mist coats and not soak the surface. Stupid eats on the other side of the room. 100ml of paint. FREE Shipping on orders over … Genius! the krylon is cheaper, but a larger can. I had a small plastic tub (with a lid) of a desert yellow which kept liquid for 2 weeks after I added two drops of extender to the mix. TAMIYA PS-55 Flat Clear Polycarbonate Spray 100Ml - 75-T86055. Part Number 85080. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, but.... would I get the same results as testors? You are viewing the archived version of the site. Might at least bring some of the color back. I personally love testors dullcote, and i dont mind the smell, but if you want something friendlier, tamiya will work, just takes some pratice to get the right mix of flat base and clear. C $12.05; Buy It Now +C $29.74 shipping   Your previous content has been restored. Get ready for some science experiments… Testors Clear Coat Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. I have been using Liqutex matt varnish thinned slightly with water and some of their Slow-Dri Fluid Retarder for almost a year now with no problems.It sprays well and is cheap to use.Jeff T. The building lamp is lit.Build'em if you got'em. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. My short term memory is getting really bad....and so is my short term memory. Lacquer just tends to be "hotter" than other types so you have to be careful using it over other paints. Beware that it requires precision mixing ratio to get the desired flat level. Sometimes even in the cat litter. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. I still want to try pollyscale, every review claims to be the flat coat from the gods... would see. 10ml Mini. Unless you have the spray can version, then just shake it well. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. The eyes were masked off and got a glossy coat using Tamiya X-22 "Clear Gloss" applied with a brush. I've done some more testing using the suggestions from you all, but unfortunately don't have any real progress to report. From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:43 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80 spray can I’ve had sputtering rattle cans of Dullcoat ruin freight car finishes. This batch has since been recalled from major retaillers but I have seen a few still on the market in smaller outlets. I haven't used Model Master dull or gloss to know if they yellow over time though. You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat. The White is actually trapped water vapor. Therefore its a battle between me and stupid the cat. I hope that Humbrol have sorted out their problems as I once found their products ultra-reliable untill my desert jets came out looking like they`d been covered in (1)snow or (2) paintstripper. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:12 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC. TS80 Flat Clear is useful to clear coat glossy paint finishes that you desire to have a final flat look. I absolutely love David Gilmour's guitar work. About Tamiya Flat Base, yes like everybody said it's just an additive elements to other gloss paints. <_<. For my first ever post on Armorama, I'm looking for some troubleshooting assistance. I don't like Dullcoat either and agree that Polly Scale is the best one out there. Perhaps you should ask a different question. ive used krylon matte finish clear coat and also mr clear top coat flat. I don't really reccomend this product. I wanted to test them out on resin and see how they looked and felt. Here's my honest advice as I've heard of this issue before. Humbrol matt or satin varnish for me! It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Tamiya acrylic paint, XF-86 Flat clear. I did have one jar that tended to leave small white specks on the finish, but that may have been a bad batch as I haven't had that problem with subsequent jars. Of course, thats all a matter of personal taste! Same thing with their gloss paints. Clear editor. Tamiya makes a flat clear. Tamiya USA Featured Items Paint & Finishing Products Painting is one of the most important steps in the model-making process, and quality coloring is made easy using Tamiya paint and finishing materials! I also have a few rattle cans of MM laquer. So you are telling me that is designed to work as a mixing agent with other paints...... well on that case I think I am going to stick with testors.... just open all the windows and door before I shoot, woo hoo, another lacquer purist! Then flat coat with another type of coat. level 1 … Testors also have one in their product line. On the bench: Dragon flakvierling with armoured cab + AM Works PE, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 01:49 PM UTC. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, Rick, You could look at it the way I do. Glossy coat using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 flat clear heads up some... 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