I preferred the A380 as the 787 climate controls were non existent (plane ran hot even after asking the cabin crew to turn it down). If you need to sleep, the recline really is excellent. If you’re interested in flying a 787 but can’t afford to fly it long haul then fly to Madrid and experience the Dreamliner in all its glory. The meal itself was tasty but I did notice how much the portion size had shrunk from breakfast to lunch. The crew were impressive but the Cabin Manager really let them down with her attitude. The hard shell of the Air France seats will not allow the passenger in front of you to encroach on your space in any way. The seat itself has a similar design to the basic World Traveller seats, with a few key differences. The news comes from British Airways’ internal magazine Up to Speed, “the monthly magazine for British Airways employees, focusing on the strategy and the people who make the airline”. The 787-9s are also equipped with 39 premium economy (World Traveller Plus) seats in a “2-3-2” configuration. The Club seats are laid out in the usual formation of alternate staggered seating over a 2-3-2 configuration. While sitting in this seat I felt a little claustrophobic and closed in which isn’t the feeling you want in business class. Being such a quiet flight, boarding was organised in a very relaxed manner and we took our seats ready for the flight. Fantastic article! One bonus about flying World Traveller Plus on the A380 is that the cabin is on the upper deck. For British Airways, even trading up to World Traveller Plus (premium economy) will present a far nicer experience for such a long journey. Part one, which looks at the Vietnam Airlines premium economy seat, can be found here.. There are 39 premium economy seats on the 787-9, with each row configured in a 2-3-2 arrangement. The 35 Business Class seats on the B787-8 are spread over 2 cabins in the front of … One of the major perks of flying the 787 on short haul routes is the ability to use IFE (In-Flight-Entertainment). Each seat has a 17.6″ width, 31″ seat pitch, a 10″ screen in the seat-back in front. All opinions in this story are our own. BA’s A350s, which will be delivered later this year, will get a new World Traveller Plus seat with a larger entertainment screen and a legrest instead of just a footrest. I went with the chicken, which (in keeping with World Traveller Plus style) was served in dishware along with a beetroot slaw starter and milk chocolate cream pot for dessert. The screens had a decent selection of films, games and music but were poor in quality, slow and had terrible touchscreen responsivity. SENIOR CORRESPONDENT - NEW YORK, NY. I immediately noticed that the economy section itself is rather small. 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Even though it was a daytime flight the flight crew dimmed the cabin windows shortly after the meal service. It used to fly to Oakland too — for the full Bay Area trifecta — though it has since canceled that route. I was seated in the center section and didn’t get much of a takeoff view. The cabin is laid out in a 1-2-1 configuration and offers 73” of pitch and 22” of width. BONUS: Club World At Last! I was able to fly both 787 and A380 Premium Economy for a Europe trip with my wife (SJC-LHR-SFO). British Airways’ 787-8s don’t have a first class cabin, but the 787-9s do, which is why some of the forward windows are covered up on the -9. Each seat has direct cabin access but seats in the middle of the cabin (E seats) are ones to avoid at all costs. Premium Economy features seats that recline up to 123°. World Traveller Plus guests get over-the-ear headphones. British Airways 787-9 Premium Economy Class Our next best option is the 787-9 — what it loses in cabin size, it wins in the overall design of the aircraft. He enjoys writing about air travel from a millennial's perspective. We boarded the plane ahead of economy, which was nice to get settled early, and quickly received a drink (from LAX the options were orange juice or water, in plastic cups; from LHR it was sparkling wine or orange juice, in glasses). Glad you enjoyed the PY cabin and service. BA 787-9 Economy Seats. T… Good read, enjoyed reading of your experience on British Airways. When British Airways announced they would start to operate the Boeing 787 Dreamliner on the Heathrow-Madrid route I booked the inaugural flight for October 29th and couldn’t wait. The alternative on a plane with conventional windows is to be the annoying guy who floods the cabin with full-force light (Editor’s note: it’s totally fine to be that guy!). I’ll take economy any day… limited recline gives me more personal space in the end. ; Ultimately, £125 ($163) felt like a small price to pay for a second checked bag, a wider, more comfortable seat, extra leg room, and better food. Extra amenities Our stylish quilt and cushion adds an extra layer of comfort when it’s time to rest, and we’ll give you a special amenity kit designed with sustainability in mind. Overall the cabin has a really nice feel to it and if you’re flying Club I would definitely recommend getting a seat in the front cabin. It has a total of 127 seats in 14 rows in a 3-3-3 layout. When you’re flying during flu season, you can never have too much vitamin C. Our taxi to the active runway was speedy, and before I knew it we were rolling. I mean I’d love to get more drinks as well I am just always shy to ask for more. It ain’t business class for sure, but it was definitely enough to make 20 hours in the sky fly right by. Between the two flights I’d spent almost 24 hours in the World Traveller Plus seat. I, therefore, had to check in at the airport. Premium Economy – BA & AA Back to Forum. Flying out of C gates can be very hectic and confusing at Heathrow but I found the procedure easy and care-free this time around. I wouldn’t say the experience totally blew me away. BONUS: Transatlantic Teatime – Virgin Atlantic Premium Economy on a 787-9. Turning $10,000 into $1 Million in Forex | DailyForex: http://go.fireontherim.com/milliondollarsforex37340. Enhanced comfort in Premium Economy. And after the first meal, the service felt like regular economy class service. It is possible to see this from either angle, however. While the service was good, I don’t think I would pay for it again. One of the many things I love about the 787 is the amazing view you get even if you aren’t seated next to the window. True that it’s not particularly comfortable when reclined, but I’ll take that over a seat back in my face every time. Loved the old speed bird livery, it was very British and had style and grace with the slogan to fly to serve. Get the best seat possible with our British … He earned his frequent flyer credentials working as a journalist, and is now a medical resident in New York City. I knew that I wanted to come back and try this route one day so on January 13th I was accompanied by James on BA460 to Madrid onboard G-ZBKN, a Boeing 787-9 model. As we descended into the Bay Area, I had fun with the multiple views on the moving map, one of which simulated a cockpit view. I was trying to stay awake for the full flight and I found plenty of content on the IFE system to keep me busy. The legroom offered is 31” which doesn’t seem too bad when compared to other airlines. ). And it’s 4 more inches than the average premium economy seating arrangement. So I just took the time to relax and appreciate how incredibly quiet and smooth the A380 is, even during takeoff. On A Majestic British Airways Airbus A380. I couldn’t tell if they were noise-cancelling or just effectively noise-blocking, but either way they’re a big win to get in premium economy. It was an act of contortion for me (not a big guy) to get out of my seat to use the lav! I got a great view of plenty of A380s like the one that would take me to San Francisco. Being a European flight, BA operated it just as they would an A320. Even the US has finally caught up, with American Airlines now selling premium economy seats on its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners on selected international routes from … With a 2-3-2 configuration like the Dreamliner, there’s only one middle seat per row. The next cabin is the Premium Economy cabin or World Traveller Plus as BA call it. Compared to the other planes in BA’s fleet, the A380 has a relatively big premium economy cabin. As we descended into the Bay Area, I had fun with the multiple views on the moving map, one of which simulated a cockpit view. It’s where I and my two co-writers, James and Ethan, will be sharing all our travel reviews and aviation news. On the way, I couldn’t help but take advantage of Heathrow’s amazing runway and ramp views. This topic has 17 replies, 14 voices, and was last updated 18 Jun 2019 ... Qantas overhypes, underdelivers 787-9 premium economy … Be sure to subscribe below for exclusive offers and our monthly newsletter! BA flies into both SFO and San Jose airports. On the B787-9, BA offers 39 Premium Economy seats on a 2-3-2 configuration (the same configuration they offer on their Business Class product! The final cabin on the aircraft is the economy cabin or World Traveller. On some flights departing London, World Traveller Plus flyers can pre-order their main course through the Manage Bookings part of the website. There’s a partition separating the cabin from Club World in front, and a lavatory and curtains to the aft. It seems that BA’s seats (looking at the 787 image) are hinged so that they just flop back into the person behind you. Composite materials make up 50% of the primary structure, including the fuselage and wings. The Club section of the aircraft is split into two cabins. British Airways has begun to pull back the veil on its new first class seats and cabin for the airline's Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, which takes to the skies in October. It will be quickly followed by a further five Dreamliners in the same year. It has six rows (five in the center section) in a 2-3-2 configuration. Rows were arranged with an incredible 42 inches of pitch. The screens are the same in both economy and premium economy which, in my honest opinion, was pretty poor. This is part two of our review of Vietnam Airlines Premium Economy on a Boeing 787-9 from London Heathrow to Hanoi. Back in the 80s and 90s traveled to London frequently via British Airways. There are 31 lie-flat Upper Class seats arranged in a 1-1-1 configuration, and each is 22 inches wide and has 79.5 inches of pitch. My initial impression of the cabin was good: large seats with a spacious feel. It’s both heartier and more attractively presented than meals in regular economy are. Be sure to subscribe to receive my monthly newsletter, exclusive offers and more. The cabin is laid out in a 2-3-2 configuration and covers rows 16-21. For this morning departure I had a glass of orange juice. The 38 inches of legroom is plenty to stretch out your legs and is far better than the Club Europe product BA offer on their short haul fleet. It’s a good kit for premium economy, especially considering that even business class amenity kits are often lackluster on some airlines’ transatlantic routes. The First cabin wasn’t used for this flight as it is only utilised on short haul when the Club cabin is overbooked. British Airways Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner Flight. We pushed back and departed from runway 09R at 13.30 before banking right and heading through the Bay of Biscay to Madrid Barajas Airport. The Boeing 787-9 is a mid-size, dual aisle, twin engine jet and Boeing’s most fuel efficient aircraft to date - 20% more fuel efficient than the similar sized commercial jets it is designed to replace. Complete details of British Airways Boeing 787-9 fleet including registrations, fleet history, maintenance history, routes flown and seat plans. British Airways is installing a new economy class seat on its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner after negative feedback from passengers, Runway Girl Network can report. BONUS: Flying Norwegian’s Long-Haul Premium Product On the 787. The 128 seats are crammed in a nine-abreast setup. Time will tell, but I think the program of changes could elevate an already-solid product to a very strong one. Just one silly question. And yes, that is correct – both business class and premium economy class are in a 7-abreast configuration… British Airways haven’t, unfortunately, rolled out WiFi on their 787 fleet so connectivity wasn’t available during the flight. The seat-back storage pockets are roomy but there aren’t any larger storage areas other than the overhead bins. This can be very handy for keeping you charged during a long flight. (At least on BA airplanes). I found a brochure orienting me to World Traveller Plus’ features. And at the end, we’ll discuss BA’s big upcoming updates to its premium economy service. I know it’s cliche but we also buy something for them to snack on like chocolates or crispy creams… always goes down well.. When British Airways announced they would start to operate the Boeing 787 Dreamliner on the Heathrow-Madrid route I booked the inaugural flight for October 29th and couldn’t wait. I was really impressed with the speed at which we were airside. Overall, I had a fantastic time onboard British Airways’ B787 aircraft and was really impressed with both the Club and World Traveller Plus cabins. Your email address will not be published. On a recent trip from London to Toronto, I flew in both economy and premium economy on British Airways to see whether the upgrade was worth it. The seat to avoid in this cabin is the window seat in row 21 as there is no window. BA flies into both SFO and San Jose airports. As I sat down it struck me just how good the comfort really was. How much more are you going to pay? The First cabin has 8 semi-enclosed suites which have been updated from the old First suite. But personally I think it’s worth it, especially for people who have trouble sleeping while sitting fully upright. The flight attendant asked me for my pre-meal and mealtime order all at once and (unprompted) gave me a double dose of the former. I was worried that this would mean I was going to be given a poor seat but in actual fact, the flight was pretty empty so I was able to sit where I wanted – the Premium Economy cabin in seat 20K. It’s not every day that you get to board a plane directly onto the upper deck and not have to spend business class bucks to do it. Each seat has a recline of … On this aircraft you are between doors 1 and 2; first class ahead of you, and business class behind. The seat offers 72” of pitch (note that is only 1” less than First) and 20” of width. More Boeing 787 Reviews on LondonSpotter: Enter your email below and be notified every time we publish a new article. Travelers can book British Airways’ premium-economy flights with a variety of mileage programs, but the infamous British Airways fuel surcharges generally make it a poor redemption. While the front cabin is certainly stylish and unique, the seats don’t look to be all that spacious, as you can see in this photo I snapped as I was getting off the plane in Newark. Overall I would have to say that Virgin Atlantic wins by a long shot due to their seat width – I can’t put into words how much difference it makes on a 10 hour flight. The four-class aircraft will feature the same exclusive eight seat First cabin which is also available on its 787-9 Dreamliner. Seat Details for B787-9 Premium Economy. It really shone in delivering a better sleep experience than I’d have gotten in regular economy. BONUS: Transatlantic Teatime – Virgin Atlantic Premium Economy on a 787-9. The Seat and the Cabin. It’s noticeably wider, reclines much further, has a fold-down leg rest, a fixed armrest between seats, and offers a small cocktail table at the end of that armrest. But it’s the brand-new premium economy product on Air France’s Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner (shown) that has us excited. The economy cabin has a total of 198 seats arranged in a 3-3-3 pattern, which is pretty standard for the Dreamliner. Found out I don’t sleep well on the long flights so if anything I would splurge on the overnight for Business class and go cheaper on the way back. The seats articulate so that as they come back, they move slightly forward so you don’t encroach entirely on the person’s space behind you. The seats themselves were identical to the ones I had on my first flight. If you score a window seat, you’ll have access to a seat-side storage bin though, given the curvature of the fuselage on the upper deck. There are a total of 6 rows of seats. I organised pre-boarding to the aircraft for shots, went for a coffee and before I knew it we were ready to go. The landing was slightly turbulent but it was a great novelty being able to complete a two-and-a-half-hour flight on a 787. The first is a cosier one with only two rows (6 and 7) and the second is a much larger addition covering rows 10 to 13. British Airways have brought in an updated cabin for the B787-9 aircraft. Overall, World Traveller Plus solidly met my expectations for premium economy. What better way to start a trip than going face-to-face with your plane? After a smooth touchdown at busy Heathrow Airport, I made my way to my connecting flight. My route would make sense if you wanted to fly Skyteam (as opposed to Oneworld with BA) and in premium economy (which you don’t get with Kenya … My second favorite is Singapore Airlines. The pizza twist looked messy but tasted fine, even after the full day of flying had wrecked my sense of taste. Are the FA ok with two gin&tonics with another two white wines? The cabin did, however, feel tight and no way near as comfortable as the Premium cabin. The changes look like they effectively target the biggest areas for improvement in the current product. BA’s 747s have World Traveller Plus sections on the main deck, arranged 2-4-2 across. A solid amenity kit and decent headphones made for nice bonuses. They always had a great product offering. As opposed to my first flight, on this flight passengers were offered a tiny menu card. Get notified of all new comments. Wow, just perfect trip report with everything I needed. I knew that I wanted to come back and try this … Continue reading "British Airways B787-9 Premium Economy … They are located directly behind the Business Class seats in an intimate cabin in front of two toilets. My choices for lunch were braised British beef with sweet potato dauphinoise, broccoli, and chasseur sauce, or Chettinad chicken with coriander rice and tadka dal. The airport wasn’t very busy at all and I was through security in under five minutes. Your email address will not be published. This new seat is already flying on a few Gatwick-based 777s. While most modern Premium Economy products have seat shells protecting the passengers behind when you recline, BA have opted not to install this. I’ve never experienced that before. On this flight I was mostly looking to get some sleep, and that’s where this seat really shines. You can see the difference between old and new below. World Traveller (economy) is contained in one large cabin at the back of the plane, behind World Traveller Plus. Each row has seven seats however, three are facing backwards. Fond memories being a pilot and avgeek. I was shocked that the seat in front of me was hinged so that the recline put the seat entirely in my face. Later this year, British Airways will celebrate a huge milestone: a full 100 years of passenger flights (if you count their predecessors all the way back to the Aircraft Transport and Travel company). I booked transatlantic flights on BA 787, E out and E+ return. Our premium economy (World Traveller Plus) seats are wider, with greater recline, lumbar support, a head and foot rest, plus extra leg room to stretch out. As luck would have it, soon after my flights BA announced some big upcoming changes to World Traveller Plus. Good review! A very quiet cabin with excellent service levels. The first five rows, row 16-20, have 7 seats across, configured in a 2-3-2 pattern, while the last row, row 21, only has the 2 aisle seats on each side. Miss those days, thanks to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and appointing John King, first merging and privatizing British Airways to profitability with a world class product starting with coach and world traveler. This cabin is configured in a 3-3-3 layout and covers rows 30-43. Relax in the wider seat, This spacious seat boasts an array of functions to make your flight a comfortable one, including a legrest, footrest, universal power port, and USB port. Depending on where you sit, the seat support pylons and IFE boxes may get in the way of your legroom. And the pre-departure drink service set a positive tone early, especially for people more used to regular economy. I was, however, invited to attend the Inaugural JL42 flight to Tokyo which ultimately took priority. And although the cabin has been refreshed since then and got an enhanced soft product again in 2019, it is among the older hard products flying in the skies today. We began our descent at around 16.20 local time and landed on runway 32L at 16.51. The Premium Economy cabin is located right behind the Business Class cabin. BA’s Boeing B787-8 has a total of 214 seats: 35 in Club World (Business Class), 25 in World Traveller Plus (Premium Economy), and 154 in World Traveller (Economy). The economy section was offered the usual buy on board products from M&S and Club was given a complimentary meal. Much better IFE compared to the equivalent Premium Economy seat on the 777-200 going out, but the seats in the 787-9 are short and lack the swing out calf rest making them much less comfortable to sleep in. I was less impressed, however, with the First cabin, which I thought was a nice improvement from the old cabin but still didn’t impress me as a First Class offering, and the economy or World Traveller cabin which was uncomfortable and seemed very cramped. The highlights are: Now it’s time for us to hear from you! The first meal service on each flight felt more like business-class-light than economy-plus. So the World Traveller Plus cabin is pretty secluded. I woke up to a modest pre-landing second meal. That’s industry-leading — there’s only a rare exception offering more. There are 127 economy seats on BA’s 787-9 in a 3-3-3 configuration, between rows 30 and 44. My journey began in a strange way – I was unable to check in online because I had an ‘unmatched E-Ticket’. BONUS: Seattle to Frankfurt Via Condor Premium Economy. Virgin Atlantic’s 787-9s have three cabins — Upper Class, premium economy and economy. I flew BA from LHR to BOS last summer in World Traveler Plus on a B777. The Air France Boeing 787-9 Premium Economy Class has a 2-3-2 seat layout: two seats on the left side of the plane, three seats in the middle and two on the right. The Virgin 787-900 was what I would have expected BA to be more like. This makes a huge difference – I would compare sitting in Virgin Atlantic’s Premium Economy to having a nice armchair, whilst BA’s premium economy just feels like a good upgraded economy seat. Before I knew it, nine hours had flown by since takeoff and it was time for the pre-arrival meal. Even for an AvGeek like me, that was more than enough flying for one day. British Airways Economy vs Premium Economy Pricing. And you didn’t have to worry about the seat in front of you reclining into your space. For this British Airways Premium Economy review, we took at look at two international flights and pricing for the British Airways Premium Economy 777, A380, 747, and 787 as compared to Economy and Business Class.. Flights are all round trips booked 30 days in advance. One of the touches that sets World Traveller Plus apart is a pre-departure beverage service. This site evolved out of my popular Instagram account, LondonSpotter. Manu got his private pilot license in high school, setting the tone for his interest in all things aviation. I prefer business class for long haul flights when feasible, but I was beguiled by the promoted Dreamliner features - better air, quieter, more environmental, and up-to-date everything, so I decided economy for the day flight would be fine this time and more cost-effective, but still not cheap. The economy cabin feels very big but at the same time very cramped. A fantastic aircraft and an awesome experience. 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